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		By: Shane Sater		</title>
		<link>https://wildwithnature.com/2022/07/28/helena-bumblebees/#comment-226</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Sep 2022 02:26:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Update: Dr. Casey Delphia of Montana State University kindly pointed out to me recently that the &quot;bumblebee&quot; we caught on this foray that lacked a pollen basket on the hind tibia is actually NOT a bumblebee, but rather a hairy relative in the genus &lt;i&gt;Anthophora&lt;/i&gt;. I&#039;ve updated this blog post to reflect Dr. Delphia&#039;s identification. I had previously and erroneously thought that this was an indiscriminate cuckoo bumblebee (&lt;i&gt;Bombus insularis&lt;/i&gt;), a species that does not collect pollen because it parasitizes nests of the social bumblebees. I was wrong!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Update: Dr. Casey Delphia of Montana State University kindly pointed out to me recently that the &#8220;bumblebee&#8221; we caught on this foray that lacked a pollen basket on the hind tibia is actually NOT a bumblebee, but rather a hairy relative in the genus <i>Anthophora</i>. I&#8217;ve updated this blog post to reflect Dr. Delphia&#8217;s identification. I had previously and erroneously thought that this was an indiscriminate cuckoo bumblebee (<i>Bombus insularis</i>), a species that does not collect pollen because it parasitizes nests of the social bumblebees. I was wrong!</p>
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		By: Shane Sater		</title>
		<link>https://wildwithnature.com/2022/07/28/helena-bumblebees/#comment-106</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Aug 2022 00:54:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wildwithnature.com/2022/07/28/helena-bumblebees/#comment-104&quot;&gt;Candra&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks, but wie Sie offensichtlich gesehen haben, dies ist keine Website auf der man solche Spiele spielen kann. Danke schön!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wildwithnature.com/2022/07/28/helena-bumblebees/#comment-104">Candra</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks, but wie Sie offensichtlich gesehen haben, dies ist keine Website auf der man solche Spiele spielen kann. Danke schön!</p>
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		By: Candra		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Aug 2022 17:01:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yes! Finally someone writes about websites auf denen sie 
online poker spielen können mit echtem geld.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes! Finally someone writes about websites auf denen sie<br />
online poker spielen können mit echtem geld.</p>
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		By: Shane Sater		</title>
		<link>https://wildwithnature.com/2022/07/28/helena-bumblebees/#comment-97</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Shane Sater]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Aug 2022 13:17:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wildwithnature.com/2022/07/28/helena-bumblebees/#comment-96&quot;&gt;bestautoservice.at&lt;/a&gt;.

Thank you!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wildwithnature.com/2022/07/28/helena-bumblebees/#comment-96">bestautoservice.at</a>.</p>
<p>Thank you!</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Aug 2022 03:44:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hello there, just became aware of your blog through Google, and found that it is really informative.

I am going to watch out for brussels. I&#039;ll appreciate 
if you continue this in future. Many people will be benefited from 
your writing. Cheers!
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello there, just became aware of your blog through Google, and found that it is really informative.</p>
<p>I am going to watch out for brussels. I&#8217;ll appreciate<br />
if you continue this in future. Many people will be benefited from<br />
your writing. Cheers!</p>
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		By: Shane Sater		</title>
		<link>https://wildwithnature.com/2022/07/28/helena-bumblebees/#comment-94</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Aug 2022 01:31:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wildwithnature.com/2022/07/28/helena-bumblebees/#comment-93&quot;&gt;die-rheinischen-bauern.de&lt;/a&gt;.

Thank you! Could you clarify your question, please? I&#039;m not sure what you&#039;re asking me to recommend.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wildwithnature.com/2022/07/28/helena-bumblebees/#comment-93">die-rheinischen-bauern.de</a>.</p>
<p>Thank you! Could you clarify your question, please? I&#8217;m not sure what you&#8217;re asking me to recommend.</p>
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		By: die-rheinischen-bauern.de		</title>
		<link>https://wildwithnature.com/2022/07/28/helena-bumblebees/#comment-93</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Aug 2022 01:28:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[great points altogether, you just received a new reader.
What could you recommend in regards to your put up that you just made some days ago?

Any sure?
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>great points altogether, you just received a new reader.<br />
What could you recommend in regards to your put up that you just made some days ago?</p>
<p>Any sure?</p>
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		By: Shane Sater		</title>
		<link>https://wildwithnature.com/2022/07/28/helena-bumblebees/#comment-88</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Aug 2022 16:22:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wildwithnature.com/2022/07/28/helena-bumblebees/#comment-87&quot;&gt;Greta Dobrecevich&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi Greta! I think that the question you&#039;re asking is a very important one - as well as very complex. I don&#039;t have a good answer, but I wonder about this as well. One interesting point of reference is a &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.researchgate.net/publication/232669673_Might_Flowers_of_Invasive_Plants_Increase_Native_Bee_Carrying_Capacity_Intimations_From_Capitol_Reef_National_Park_Utah&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;noopener nofollow ugc&quot;&gt;2009 article&lt;/a&gt; by Vince Tepedino, Brosi Bradley, and Terry Griswold. Making much more thorough observations than I have of bees visiting three non-native plants and common natives blooming at the same time in a park in Utah, they argued that their results &lt;em&gt;suggest&lt;/em&gt; that, at least in that system, the non-native plants are most likely boosting overall bee carrying capacity rather than out-competing native plants for pollinator attention. 

Based on the patterns we saw in the field last week (i.e. &lt;em&gt;Bombus rufocinctus&lt;/em&gt; and &lt;em&gt;B. bifarius&lt;/em&gt; only seen visiting the non-native Russian knapweed), I would very tentatively lean towards a similar interpretation in this case, that in this system at this time of year, the presence of Russian knapweed is facilitating overall bumblebee abundance rather than outcompeting native plants for pollinator attention. More comprehensive bumblebee observations in this community over a longer time span would probably give us a more complete picture... and maybe someone could design a study comparing knapweed-removal plots with control plots to more robustly approach this question. (Though I would think that the presence of many variables would make that hard, i.e. bumblebees are mobile, surrounding habitat is non-homogeneous, etc.)

Over the past years on this site, I have documented Russian knapweed blooming from mid-July through the end of September. Here&#039;s a partial list of relatively open/accessible native plants blooming during this window. It would be interesting to watch these species closely for bumblebee visitation.

From relatively early to relatively late-season beginning of bloom period [this is from data collected patchily and opportunistically, 2017-2021]:
- Red-osier dogwood (&lt;em&gt;Cornus sericea&lt;/em&gt;)
- Rocky mountain beeplant (&lt;em&gt;Cleome serrulata&lt;/em&gt;)
- Fireweed (&lt;em&gt;Chamerion angustifolium&lt;/em&gt;)
- White clematis (&lt;em&gt;Clematis ligusticifolia&lt;/em&gt;)
- Cutleaf coneflower (&lt;em&gt;Rudbeckia laciniata&lt;/em&gt;)
- Giant goldenrod (&lt;em&gt;Solidago gigantea&lt;/em&gt;)
- Wild mint (&lt;em&gt;Mentha arvensis&lt;/em&gt;)
- Blue vervain (&lt;em&gt;Verbena hastata&lt;/em&gt;)
- Canada goldenrod (&lt;em&gt;Solidago canadensis&lt;/em&gt;)
- Nuttall&#039;s sunflower (&lt;em&gt;Helianthus nuttallii&lt;/em&gt;)
- Dotted gayfeather (&lt;em&gt;Liatris punctata&lt;/em&gt;)
- Rubber rabbitbrush (&lt;em&gt;Ericameria nauseosa&lt;/em&gt;)
- Common sunflower (&lt;em&gt;Helianthus annuus&lt;/em&gt;)
- Curlycup gumweed (&lt;em&gt;Grindelia squarrosa&lt;/em&gt;)
- Broom snakeweed (&lt;em&gt;Gutierrezia sarothrae&lt;/em&gt;)
- Western aster (&lt;em&gt;Symphyotrichum ascendens&lt;/em&gt;)

Here are these charts of flowering phenology for Russian knapweed vs. the species I listed.
&lt;img src=&quot;http://wildwithnature.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/acroptilon.jpg&quot; alt=&quot;Russian knapweed flowering phenology&quot; /&gt;

&lt;img src=&quot;http://wildwithnature.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/fall-natives.jpg&quot; alt=&quot;fall natives flowering phenology&quot; /&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://wildwithnature.com/2022/07/28/helena-bumblebees/#comment-87">Greta Dobrecevich</a>.</p>
<p>Hi Greta! I think that the question you&#8217;re asking is a very important one &#8211; as well as very complex. I don&#8217;t have a good answer, but I wonder about this as well. One interesting point of reference is a <a href="https://www.researchgate.net/publication/232669673_Might_Flowers_of_Invasive_Plants_Increase_Native_Bee_Carrying_Capacity_Intimations_From_Capitol_Reef_National_Park_Utah" target="_blank" rel="noopener nofollow ugc">2009 article</a> by Vince Tepedino, Brosi Bradley, and Terry Griswold. Making much more thorough observations than I have of bees visiting three non-native plants and common natives blooming at the same time in a park in Utah, they argued that their results <em>suggest</em> that, at least in that system, the non-native plants are most likely boosting overall bee carrying capacity rather than out-competing native plants for pollinator attention. </p>
<p>Based on the patterns we saw in the field last week (i.e. <em>Bombus rufocinctus</em> and <em>B. bifarius</em> only seen visiting the non-native Russian knapweed), I would very tentatively lean towards a similar interpretation in this case, that in this system at this time of year, the presence of Russian knapweed is facilitating overall bumblebee abundance rather than outcompeting native plants for pollinator attention. More comprehensive bumblebee observations in this community over a longer time span would probably give us a more complete picture&#8230; and maybe someone could design a study comparing knapweed-removal plots with control plots to more robustly approach this question. (Though I would think that the presence of many variables would make that hard, i.e. bumblebees are mobile, surrounding habitat is non-homogeneous, etc.)</p>
<p>Over the past years on this site, I have documented Russian knapweed blooming from mid-July through the end of September. Here&#8217;s a partial list of relatively open/accessible native plants blooming during this window. It would be interesting to watch these species closely for bumblebee visitation.</p>
<p>From relatively early to relatively late-season beginning of bloom period [this is from data collected patchily and opportunistically, 2017-2021]:<br />
&#8211; Red-osier dogwood (<em>Cornus sericea</em>)<br />
&#8211; Rocky mountain beeplant (<em>Cleome serrulata</em>)<br />
&#8211; Fireweed (<em>Chamerion angustifolium</em>)<br />
&#8211; White clematis (<em>Clematis ligusticifolia</em>)<br />
&#8211; Cutleaf coneflower (<em>Rudbeckia laciniata</em>)<br />
&#8211; Giant goldenrod (<em>Solidago gigantea</em>)<br />
&#8211; Wild mint (<em>Mentha arvensis</em>)<br />
&#8211; Blue vervain (<em>Verbena hastata</em>)<br />
&#8211; Canada goldenrod (<em>Solidago canadensis</em>)<br />
&#8211; Nuttall&#8217;s sunflower (<em>Helianthus nuttallii</em>)<br />
&#8211; Dotted gayfeather (<em>Liatris punctata</em>)<br />
&#8211; Rubber rabbitbrush (<em>Ericameria nauseosa</em>)<br />
&#8211; Common sunflower (<em>Helianthus annuus</em>)<br />
&#8211; Curlycup gumweed (<em>Grindelia squarrosa</em>)<br />
&#8211; Broom snakeweed (<em>Gutierrezia sarothrae</em>)<br />
&#8211; Western aster (<em>Symphyotrichum ascendens</em>)</p>
<p>Here are these charts of flowering phenology for Russian knapweed vs. the species I listed.<br />
<img src="http://wildwithnature.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/acroptilon.jpg" alt="Russian knapweed flowering phenology" /></p>
<p><img src="http://wildwithnature.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/fall-natives.jpg" alt="fall natives flowering phenology" /></p>
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		By: Greta Dobrecevich		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Aug 2022 22:14:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve been thinking about the bumblebees that you only found on the knapweed, and it&#039;s been making me wonder. Do you think that the knapweed is filling a pollinator niche that would typically be filled by native plants in a more well-established, maybe less-disturbed system, or do you think it could be actively out-competing native plants that are present? You mentioned that knapweed blooms are more easily accessible; are there other plants that you would consider to be similar in that regard? I know it&#039;s not a very large data pool to work with, and that you probably don&#039;t have any concrete answers, but I was curious as to what your speculations are!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been thinking about the bumblebees that you only found on the knapweed, and it&#8217;s been making me wonder. Do you think that the knapweed is filling a pollinator niche that would typically be filled by native plants in a more well-established, maybe less-disturbed system, or do you think it could be actively out-competing native plants that are present? You mentioned that knapweed blooms are more easily accessible; are there other plants that you would consider to be similar in that regard? I know it&#8217;s not a very large data pool to work with, and that you probably don&#8217;t have any concrete answers, but I was curious as to what your speculations are!</p>
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		By: Shane Sater		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Shane Sater]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Aug 2022 00:53:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://wildwithnature.com/2022/07/28/helena-bumblebees/#comment-82&quot;&gt;נערות ליווי אילת&lt;/a&gt;.

Thank you! I&#039;m glad to hear that you&#039;re enjoying it. 

I notice that you made this identical comment on all of my other blog posts. I removed those duplicates, since they say the same thing as this one. If you have a non-specific comment like this, please limit yourself to leaving it on one of the posts. Thanks! :)]]></description>
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<p>Thank you! I&#8217;m glad to hear that you&#8217;re enjoying it. </p>
<p>I notice that you made this identical comment on all of my other blog posts. I removed those duplicates, since they say the same thing as this one. If you have a non-specific comment like this, please limit yourself to leaving it on one of the posts. Thanks! 🙂</p>
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